Tuesday, May 18, 2004

Why Care About The Red Sox [revisited]

I'll take some time out to respond to your takes:

Pork:  You are right about the teams being cursed with "stupidity and choke artists".  Buckner's mishap aside....the rest of the curse has been nothing more than the other team stepping up.  I mean, did Fisher's shot against the Spurs last week mean there is a curse against the Spurs now??  No.  I just means a guy who is off the radar made a big play at a big moment that will keep him in fans hearts forever. 

Jawalt:  If the Red Sox failure to close the deal in the playoffs is a curse, then what exactly is happening to the Braves.  Twelve straight division titles and just the one World Series title.  And that was over another down-trodden team.  I mean, didn't they have the Jim Leyritz shot in Game 4?  Lonnie Smith's baserunning error in Game 7 against the Twins that would assuredly given the Braves the title??  How about Kirby Puckett's catch the game before?  Dave Winfield's big hit against Charlie Leibrandt that gave the Jays the title?  Livan Hernandez looking like Roger Clemmons in 1997.  But, they've had some great clutch moments too.  Like Francisco Cabrera. 

PatriotsChamp:  You said that the attention may have to do with the fact that the Cubs and Red Sox play in Wrigley and Fenway and sell it out.  Both parks are beautiful and hold under 40,000 seats.  The ChiSox used to play in a classic ballpark....and the Giants currently play in a jewel of a park.  I think the reason for the media love for them is the fact that their fans seem to be in love with the team, no matter how hard times can be.  And that's hard to say for the Indians, Brewers, etc.  As for last season's playoffs....a fan tried to catch a foul ball, a starting pitcher was left in too long, and a guy turned on a knuckleball that didn't knuckle.  Doesn't seem to cosmic to me.  I mean, you could say the same thing about the Giants.  They lost a 5-0 lead late in their would-be title clinching game.  And, hell, they had a freaking earthquake right before a World Series game!!! lol

And1515:  I never said I am tired of "curses"...but tired of hearing about how one entire franchise is doomed to never win the big trophy when their is many other teams who haven't done nearly the things the Red Sox have accomplished.  And, for your comment of now "hating the White Sox"...go right ahead.  I'm a Reds fan.

TeenageTimeBomb:  Great comments.  Every team does lose.  I mean, when the Yankees have won 25% of the championships....its hard to gobble up the other ones.  Heck, even the mighty Yankees had Mariano Rivera lose a 9th inning lead to the Diamondbacks in Game 7 of 2001.  They also paid $200M to lose to a team that paid $30M for its guys.  As for teams losing players that go on to great teams....well, everyone has that too.  The Reds dealt Frank Robinson.  The A's dealt Mark McGwire.  The Pirates let Bonds walk.  The White Sox and Rangers let Sosa go.  The Mariners had A-Rod, Junior and The Big Unit.  The Cubs had Mark Grace and Luis Gonzalez, who won a title with Arizona.  The Indians had Jim Thome, Albert Belle and Manny Ramirez.  The Bucks traded Kareem.  Every team makes a bad decision with its personnel.....you just don't stomach letting Ruth and Clemons go.

Steve:  One interesting thing about a "Red Sox Curse" is that everyone seems to forget that it was the Angels who choked the 1986 ALCS which enabled the Red Sox [and all that went after that] to get to the World Series.  They were up 3-1 in the series, and had a lead in the 9th.  The pitcher who ended up being the goat, would up committing suicide.  The Angels were a sad-sacked franchise until the Rally Monkey-ed their title in 2002.

Just look at it this way, Red Sox fans.  Maybe you'll dominate the next 100 years.  I mean, after all, the Celtics won 16 NBA titles from 1957-1986.  Over half of those seasons, Boston won the title.  But, in the 18 years since...they've won zero.  The Bulls won 6, the Lakers won 5, the Pistons and Rockets have won 2 each.  And so have the ex-ABA franchise, the San Antonio Spurs. 

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

The Red Sox are the biggest choke team in baseball. The cubs and white sox  may have gone longer without winning then the red sox. The reason is they stink and always have. The red sox have put out some great teams over the years and in some cases the best team and still find away to lose.